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Note rsmcc: because I'm the only player you may pass in final GP and I've chosen Räikkönen, you can't choose him for Abu Dhabi.


Only so often two Finns at podium, but I can't be entirely happy anyway... emoticon

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OMG what a race in the prestigious Macau Grand Prix. First time I've watched it live. Picked a good time. The GT races wre unusual in both having only eight finishers, while both GT and WTCC had a race stopped by the entire track becoming jammed Avalanche style at the Police corner. F3's event was a big case of 'what might have been' for several. For Lando Norris for messing up the first race's start, for Joel Eriksson and Calum Ilott for getting caught out by the sudden restart in race two, for Mick Schumacher crashing on Friday, dropping to last and staying there after stuffing up an overtake on Saturday, and having mechanical trouble after charging up to eleventh from last on Sunday. At least he got the fastest lap on Sunday.

Love seeing people on the net going 'wait, what? Schumacher? As in... that Schumacher?' Yep. My first villain when I started watching F1, a role now taken by Hamilton. Some people, it seemed, didn't even know Michael had a son; they were just vaguely aware of him from archive, or remembered him from before but didn't follow the sport closely. As he moves up the ladder, I hope Mick turns out more like his uncle Ralf, i.e. he actually behaves himself on track. He has so far...

Then there was that final lap. Sergio Sette Camara showed brilliant defence, Ferdinand Habsburg was awesome in his aggression where he somehow made no contact with his opponent, and then the final corner sure to be replayed for years to come, as they both ran out of grip. Dan Ticktum profited massively, though he earned that win himself with his round the outside sweeper a couple of laps before to get into the position to benefit from any mayhem. I thought he was going to win as the final lap started because something was threatening to happen, and it did.

I finally got too tired on the Saturday and stopped after WTCC, then I woke up to the horrible news that the bike race had a fatal accident in it. Condolences to the rider's family and fellow racers, of course.

Elsewhere in motorsport, three cheers for Tatiana Calderon, scoring a podium in the last ever Formula V8 3.5 race. A good pair of races in Abu Dhabi in GP3, and who knows where she'll go next...

F1

The race in which we showed Ferrari "Look what you could have won". I'd love to see a Ferrari-made speedboat, wouldn't you? Bottas has no answer to a Twirly Finger! Vettel needed that for his sanity, and it certainly cheered me up after a crappy two and a half months watching. Raikkonen proved too good for Hamilton in P4. Even Hamilton pointed out his fourth wasn't really that special, because he was in a Mercedes with DRS, so didn't have to do any work. Contrast that with Massa getting the goodbye he wanted. Finally showing Fernando who's faster! emoticon

Or with Ricciardo, showing why the Huntsman is the best overtaker on the current grid. He comes from a different postcode, and nine times out of ten, no contact, little tyre lockup, and position gained.

Whinging has infected the whole Haas team now. There is no inconsistency in stewards decisions, people are breaking the rules too often, that's your trouble. Clean it up next year, everyone. A penalty little consolation to O'Consistency, whose true consistency finally ended, and in the same way the previous record holder's did with a first lap crash. Spooky.

Drivers

1. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) 345
2. Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari) 302
3. Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes) 280
4. Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull Racing Tag Heuer) 200

Constructors

1. Mercedes 625
2. Ferrari 495
3. Red Bull Racing Tag Heuer 358
4. Force India Mercedes 177

Manufacturers

1. Mercedes 884
2. Ferrari 547
3. Renault 460
4. Honda 28

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Too late to save him, as it comes after he was dropped by Red Bull, oh well. But still, a win's a win. Well done to Niko Kari in GP3!

For F1, putting a punt on Raikkonen, he always goes well in Abu Dhabi.
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Note rsmcc: because I'm the only player you may pass in final GP and I've chosen Räikkönen, you can't choose him for Abu Dhabi.



Since that is not a valid choice, you'll have Bottas again.
...which does not look good for me emoticon



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A story of 'what might have been' for Kari. He finally won a race on Saturday, then fell back into form on Sunday by colliding with Schothorst, benefitting the champion Russell. Boccolacci also overcame being a cosmic punchbag on Sunday by winning. Ticktum showed Dams had the pace on their final GP3 outing, making it a massive missed opportunity for Calderon, as she threw away said pace by hitting Baptista and breaking her front wing on Saturday and stalling on Sunday. I would suggest that to reduce the gimme nature of DRS which results in F1 having 'passing' rather than real overtaking done under the drivers' own steam, F1 should do what GP3 does and restrict DRS use to a handful of activations and make it more strategic, making DRS more interesting, since you have to decide whether to try doing it yourself or press the button and risk wasting a use of it.

So to the last ever season of GP3 next year. Who will be the last champion? We shall see.

Final Drivers' Standings

1. George Russell (ART Grand Prix) 220

2. Jack Aitken (ART Grand Prix) 141
3. Nirei Fukuzumi (ART Grand Prix) 134
4. Anthoine Hubert (ART Grand Prix) 123
5. Giuliano Alesi (Trident) 99
6. Dorian Boccolacci (Trident) 93
7. Alessio Lorandi (Jenzer Motorsport) 92
8. Ryan Tveter (Trident) 78
9. Arjun Maini (Jenzer Motorsport) 72
10. Niko Kari (Arden International) 63
11. Dan Ticktum (Dams) 34
12. Kevin Joerg (Trident) 28
13. Raoul Hyman (Campos Racing) 27
14. Leonardo Pulcini (Arden International) 20
15. Julien Falchero (Campos Racing) 14
16. Marcos Siebert (Campos Racing) 14
17. Steijn Schothorst (Arden International) 8
18. Tatiana Calderon (Dams) 7
19. Santino Ferrucci (Dams) 3
20. Bruno Baptista (Dams) 3
21. Juan Manuel Correa (Jenzer Motorsport) 0
22. Matthieu Vaxiviere (Dams) 0

Final Teams' Standings

1. ART Grand Prix 578

2. Trident 286
3. Jenzer Motorsport 164
4. Arden International 91
5. Campos Racing 56
6. Dams 48

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GP3

Look how many GP3 and F3 and F4 stars are testing F2 and GP3 cars in Abu Dhabi. Got a bit excited to see Calderon testing for ART no less. Also notable is the absence of Mick Schumacher, as they ran out of room at the inn. He'll need another F3 season before progressing, methinks.

F2

Another weekend, another race handed from Rowland to Markelov by a technical infringement by Dams. Leclerc going all Hamilton-in-Hungary with his team mate Fuoco on Saturday was rendered pointless as an infringement also did for him. All this played havoc with the battle for the teams' championship. People coming and going amongst the teams as well as the drivers made everything look a little bit sloppy.

On Sunday I was gutted for Albon as Leclerc robbed him on the last lap. They made contact and he got the momentum to pull off the pass from contact, so I would have thrown the book at Leclerc. Not impressed. Oh well, he was a runaway champion, he'd not shed too much tears over it, especially since he'll likely be sporting a shiny new Alfa Romeo badge in 2018 in F1.

Final Drivers' Standings

1. Charles Leclerc (Prema Racing) 282

2. Artem Markelov (Russian Time) 210
3. Oliver Rowland (Dams) 191
4. Luca Ghiotto (Russian Time) 185
5. Nicholas Latifi (Dams) 178
6. Nobuharu Matsushita (ART Grand Prix) 131
7. Nyck De Vries (Rapax/Racing Engineering) 114
8. Antonio Fuoco (Prema Racing) 98
9. Norman Nato (Arden International) 91
10. Alexander Albon (ART Grand Prix) 86
11. Jordan King (MP Motorsport) 62
12. Sergio Sette Camara (MP Motorsport) 47
13. Gustav Malja (Racing Engineering) 44
14. Sergio Canamasas (Trident/Rapax) 21
15. Sean Gelael (Arden International) 17
16. Johnny Cecotto Junior (Rapax) 16
17. Louis Deletraz (Racing Engineering/Rapax) 16
18. Roberto Merhi (Campos Racing/Rapax) 11
19. Ralph Boschung (Campos Racing) 9
20. Sergey Sirotkin (ART Grand Prix) 5
21. Alex Palou (Campos Racing) 4
22. Santino Ferrucci (Trident) 2
23. Nabil Jeffri (Trident) 1
24. Robert Visoiu (Campos Racing) 0
25. Lando Norris (Campos Racing) 0
26. Callum Ilott (Trident) 0
27. Stefano Colletti (Campos Racing) 0
28. Rene Binder (Rapax) 0
29. Raffaele Marciello (Trident) 0

Final Teams' Standings

1. Russian Time 395

2. Prema Racing 380
3. Dams 369
4. ART Grand Prix 222
5. Rapax 137
6. Arden International 108
7. MP Motorsport 107
8. Racing Engineering 87
9. Campos Racing 17
10. Trident 9

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Finally getting around to this. Well, as usual, Hamilton fanboys whinging. That race was not dull. There were crashes, strategic duels, a great defensive drive from Bottas to earn his third win, fending off Hamilton and some nice overtaking battles in the midfield. These complainers are getting right on my *BLEEP* saying it's 'dull', just because the passing isn't every two *BLEEP*ing seconds, and isn't for first place. The track doesn't need changing either Lewis; F2, GP3, and the slower teams can manage it just fine. Same with Alonso and Webber stuck behind Petrov in 2010, it's not the track's fault that you're just not good enough to overtake when not in P1 in a top car designed to run in clean air at the front, quit making excuses. It's not dull, people, you've just got a short attention sp-

Saint Murray would be very disappointed in you.

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So many questions hang over 2018. Will Ferrari finally take Mercedes down in flames? Can Red Bull keep up? Hamilton or Vettel as a five times champion? I say Vettel, obviously. Will the halo affect performance? Will France put on a good show on its return? I like the new logo, and frankly I'm surprised it didn't arrive at the start of this year. Guess the new management wanted to bed themselves in first. The wholesale change kicks in ahead of testing.

A new look F1, F2 and GP3 for next year. How exciting...

Final Drivers' Standings

1. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) 363

2. Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari) 317
3. Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes) 305
4. Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) 205
5. Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull Racing Tag Heuer) 200
6. Max Verstappen (Red Bull Racing Tag Heuer) 168
7. Sergio Perez (Force India Mercedes) 100
8. Esteban Ocon (Force India Mercedes) 87
9. Carlos Sainz Junior (Scuderia Toro Rosso Renault/Renault) 54
10. Nico Hulkenberg (Renault) 43
11. Felipe Massa (Williams Mercedes) 43
12. Lance Stroll (Williams Mercedes) 40
13. Romain Grosjean (Haas Ferrari) 28
14. Kevin Magnussen (Haas Ferrari) 19
15. Fernando Alonso (McLaren Honda) 17
16. Stoffel Vandoorne (McLaren Honda) 13
17. Jolyon Palmer (Renault) 8
18. Pascal Wehrlein (Sauber Ferrari) 5
19. Daniil Kvyat (Scuderia Toro Rosso Renault) 5
20. Marcus Ericsson (Sauber Ferrari) 0
21. Pierre Gasly (Scuderia Toro Rosso Renault) 0
22. Antonio Giovinazzi (Sauber Ferrari) 0
23. Brendon Hartley (Scuderia Toro Rosso Renault) 0
24. Paul Di Resta (Williams Mercedes) 0
25. Jenson Button (McLaren Honda) 0

Final Constructors' Standings

1. Mercedes 668

2. Ferrari 522
3. Red Bull Racing Tag Heuer 368
4. Force India Mercedes 187
5. Williams Mercedes 83
6. Renault 57
7. Scuderia Toro Rosso Renault 53
8. Haas Ferrari 47
9. McLaren Honda 30
10. Sauber Ferrari 5

Final Manufacturers' Standings

1. Mercedes 937

2. Ferrari 574
3. Renault 478
4. Honda 30

Final Pole Position Trophy Standings

1. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) 11

2. Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari) 4
3. Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes) 4
4. Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) 1

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Well that was crazy. Watched the last three highlights shows in a bundle and it was surprising how Ferrari like Hyundai's defeat was. Spain was their Singapore.
Implosion. It wasn't as if M-Sport found some sort of magic sweet spot, Ogier occasionally had problems too. Mikkelsen joing the top table again with Hyundai
throws something interesting into the mix, though he had his problems too with reliability. Something was in the air for Evans to win in Wales.
Latvala seems to have gotten his mojo back with Toyota, I think Ogier rather wore him down at Volkswagen. Pleased to see him smiling more.
I find it insulting how some people only take Ogier seriously after title five, as if titles one to four somehow 'didn't count' because it was with a manufacturer.
Balls. Same as in F1, some people are only supporting Vettel for the first time now he's with a 'classic' marque instead of a drinks company. Snobbish a*******s.
Yet if you dared suggest Hamilton was only winning because of Mercedes, they'd eat you alive. Hypocrites, the lot of them.

Anyway, bottom line, Ogier won all five titles by being the best, he didn't work any harder with M-Sport than with Volkswagen. That's bullhits.
He's the best. Deal with it.

And so, that's fourteen years, now. Will 2018 finally break the run, or are we going to have title number six for Ogier, and thus make it fifteen consecutive years
that the WRC Drivers' title has been won by a Red Bull backed French driver named Sebastien? I still think the Race of Champions missed a trick
earlier in the decade by not having a 'Seb-Off' between Ogier, Loeb, Vettel and Buemi. M-Sport retaining Ogier gives them hope, surely.
I wonder if Tanak will make them regret losing him at Toyota. Him and Latvala together looks potent.

2018, eh?

Final Drivers' Standings

1. Sebastien Ogier/Julien Ingrassia (M-Sport) 232

2. Thierry Neuville/Nicolas Gilsoul (Hyundai) 208
3. Ott Tanak/Martin Jarveoja (M-Sport) 191
4. Jari-Matti Latvala/Miikka Anttila (Toyota) 136
5. Elfyn Evans/Daniel Barritt (M-Sport) 128
6. Dani Sordo/Marc Marti (Hyundai) 95
7. Kris Meeke/Paul Nagle (Citroen) 77
8. Hayden Paddon/Multiple (Hyundai) 74 [John Kennard, Seb Marshall]
9. Juho Hanninen/Kaj Lindstrom (Toyota) 71
10. Craig Breen/Scott Martin (Citroen) 64
11. Esapekka Lappi/Janne Ferm (Toyota) 62
12. Andreas Mikkelsen/Anders Jaeger (Citroen/Hyundai) 54
13. Stephane Lefebvre/Gabin Moreau (Citroen) 30
14. Teemu Suninen/Mikko Markkula (M-Sport) 29
15. Mads Ostberg/Multiple (M-Sport) 29 [Ola Floene, Torstein Eriksen, Emil Axelsson]
16. Jan Kopecky/Pavel Dresler (Skoda) 7
17. Pontus Tidemand/Jonas Andersson (Skoda) 4
18. Nathan Quinn/Glenn MacNeall (Mini) 4
19. Eric Camilli/Benjamin Veillas (M-Sport) 3
20. Jourdan Serderidis/Frederic Miclotte (Citroen) 2
21. Stephane Sarrazin/Jacques-Julien Renucci (Skoda) 2
22. Armin Kremer/Pirmin Winklhofer (M-Sport) 2
23. Ole Christian Veiby/Stig Rune Skjaermoen (Skoda) 1
24. Yohan Rossel/Benoit Fulcrand (Citroen) 1
25. Kalle Rovanpera/ Jonne Halttunen (M-Sport) 1
26. Bryan Bouffier/Denis Giraudet (M-Sport) 1

Final Manufacturers' Standings

1. M-Sport 428

2. Hyundai 345
3. Toyota 251
4. Citroen 218
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