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Finaly got around to watching Mexico's highlights show, just in time for France. Holy moly, what the hell were you doing, Meeke? At least he didn't do a Solberg and knock down any poles. Toyota were fairly anonymous, Neuville finally had some good luck, and favourite moment was Lorenzo Bertelli acting as if nothing had happened when he'd rolled and flattened his windscreen.

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1. Sebastian Ogier/Julien Ingrassia (M-Sport) 66
2. Jari-Matti Latvala/Miikka Anttila (Toyota) 58
3. Ott Tanak/Martin Jarveoja (M-Sport) 48
4. Dani Sordo/Marc Marti (Hyundai) 30

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1. M-Sport 103
2. Toyota 67
3. Hyundai 65
4. Citroen 55

F1

With the rain playing a significant part already in China - haven't seen conditions wreck practice like that since Japan '07 - I'm gonna take a punt on Ricciardo. Because all the boring, predictable people are gonna say Verstappen, aren't they? Giovinazzi might also be an outside bet for some points, maybe? Could be crazy enough.

Also, this.



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I'll take that as Ricciardo being your choice for the Game?


Bad news for/from Finland: Koiranen GP will not continue in GP3.
They will concentrate on F4, in the North European and the Spanish series.

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Not a particularly good weekend for Finns, in F1 nor WRC emoticon

Oh well, could have been worse.

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Oh dear. *sigh* Giovinazzi accidentally screwed his employers, his second crash of the week bringing out the safety car and ruining Vettel's plan to undercut his way ahead of Hamilton, allowing him to annoy me by claiming the Grand Chelem. It has emerged that Wehrlein may have an injury that was previously undisclosed to the public, a neck injury on top of the back one. That must have been killing him in testing and Australia practice. Fractures to back and neck I remember, back in 2004 sidelined Ralf Schumacher for three months. If this is the case with Wehrlein, I would think Sauber would be better getting on the blower to Ferrari about sticking with Giovinazzi into the summertime, around about Canada or Azerbaijan. Don't believe any of this 'paymaster' or 'power play' B-Locks about Ferrari trying to stop a Mercedes driver from driving their engines. This isn't the '90s. Or the '00s. Mr. E, di Montezemelo (or 'Pizzahead', as my mum very derisively used to call him) and Mosley are all long gone. This is a new, more open age, now. Sauber aren't Ferrari's Smithers anymore.
That's Haas' job, now. emoticon

Annoyed as I am by the result, I can have no complaints. So I do. Have no complaints, that is. Through gritted teeth, Hamilton won fair and square. Vettel didn't even screw up, really. The strategy was correct, it was bad luck. More tellingly, he overtook when he got shuffled back, in a way that Hamilton noticably didn't in Australia. As before, Hamilton's the one that only wins from the front, if you're gonna play that game. Yet magically no-one says it about him, but they did of Vettel in days of yore. Not needing to overtake is not the same as can't, but try telling that to the fanboys of the driver who has to overtake. They'd rather make excuses about the other guy having it handed to him rather than admit to their guy not being good enough.

Those same people also keep piping up with "Hello? Brazil '08?" when Lewis says this will be the closest battle of all. But that wasn't a real fight. In normal conditions, and without bad luck in prior races, Massa would have won that championship before Brazil. Even on the day, the closeness was artificial because it was raining. Hamilton got into a losing position from the rain allowing Vettel to push him out of the winning position before allowing both to pass Glock on the last lap - NOT on the last corner, on the penultimate corner. Last corner may sound cooler, but it's not true. Don't you go telling me the sweeping left by the pits at Interlagos is a 'straight'. In dry conditions Hamilton would have been second behind Massa and won with no trouble.

Hamilton himself knows this. This is what he was referring to when he talked about this year being the closest ever. He knows that all thing being equal, he has not yet won a title battle against another team on pure performance. He's only done that against the other guy in his own team. And barely five months ago he lost one to the other guy on pure performance; though his fanboys prefer to play the victim of A Game of Throttles instead, because that's much easier. This is the chance for him to tick that box.

Of course, Vettel's got some box ticking of his own to do. Achieving what Michael Schumacher did; winning for Ferrari after years of them having their asses kicked. I'll gladly have that. As I keep saying, it's my turn to cheer a German winning for Ferrari. He's leading them the way Alonso never could. Such a shame it's taken three years of humiliation for Fernando to finally accept that this is not the Honda that won championships with Senna and Prost, it's the Honda that kept bursting into flames in Jenson Button's face if he looked at it funny. The last ten years of his career have been a masterclass in career self-destruction.

I would go on, but I want to lay off the mud slinging at least once a month. Especially, since China proved that overtaking is more real this year. Just as many at Turn 6 as in the DRS zone. That will please Ross Brawn. DRS, your days are hopefully numbered. Thank you Vettel, and Verstappen. I said something nice about Verstappen. God, this race must have been good.

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1. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) 43
2. Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari) 43
3. Max Verstappen (Red Bull Racing TAG-Heuer) 25
4. Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes) 23

Constructors

1. Mercedes 66
2. Ferrari 65
3. Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer 37
4. Scuderia Toro Rosso Renault 12

Manufacturers

1. Mercedes 84
2. Ferrari 69
3. Renault 49

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I don't get why Ferrari didn't have Kimi stop sooner, it should've been pretty clear he couldn't compete with old tyres. A couple laps earlier and he might not have been behind Sainz and would've been fighting Red Bulls in the end.
And in hindsight, while pitting Vettel in beginning was somewhat logical at the time, there was high odds of safety car...

So I call this tactics fail for Ferrari. And we've seen some of that in recent years. (Who still remembers how back in Schumi times Ferrari was the ones who seemed to somehow always get it right?)

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F2 gets underway this weekend. Like GP3 last year, it's all about Leclerc. Meanwhile in F1, Ferrari's apparent fragility puts its chances in doubt. That could give Bottas a chance, so I'm gonna stick my neck out again and go for him this weekend.

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Hopefully Finns finally do better, I've got Räikkönen.

Good race in F2 emoticon

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Two races, two drivers using the old 'pit at some point and then pass people while their own tyres are crap' strategy. But the difference was timing. Markelov got the timing right on Saturday, wrong on Sunday, while Leclerc looked like he'd left it too late to me, and he nearly did as the final decisive pass was on the last lap. The chassis and engine change next year to something more resembling F1, so it will be interesting to see who does the 'real' overtaking then. Strange seeing the template for the official F1 graphics actually being used on the support series now, rather than, as Tropes might call it, a 'Serial Numbers Filed Off' version. Guess GP3 and Porsche Supercup will follow suit, then. And the series may change, the drivers may come and go, but they all still hate Canamasas. He used to compete with Cecotto to be the second tier's Maldonado, but it's him, now. No question. I still cut him some slack, though. Sometimes it's too easy for people to blame him for their own screwups. Then he becomes the second tier's punchbag.

So Leclerc, one weekend in, now it's up to you to stay on top.

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1. Charles Leclerc (Prema Racing) 36
2. Artem Markelov (Russian Time) 28
3. Oliver Rowland (Dams) 20
4. Luca Ghiotto (Russian Time) 18

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1. Russian Time 46
2. Prema Racing 38
3. Dams 28
4. Arden 18

F1

Woohoo! Awesome Seb! Perfect strategy once again!

I wondered what was going on with Bottas. Was he playing a canny strategy, or did he have a problem? You just couldn't tell in that first stint. I thought his problem might have been mechanical rather than tyre related, since the fact he was creating a train behind him looked so suspicious. Team orders in only Round 3. I suspect that was behind the small number of boos you could hear for Hamilton if you listened closely. Meanwhile, I was very unimpressed by him stacking Ricciardo in the pits. Just because the team wasn't moving your team mate as fast as you wanted doesn't mean you can just screw someone else over just to get smooth service! Git! Dark Mini and the stewards made sure he didn't get away with that; a slow stop of his own and a penalty being the price he had to pay. David Coulthard made my urge to kill rise more on C4's commentary. You're only saying it's harsh because it was the Brit they threw the book at, admit it. Come on DC, you were still racing when that rule was first brought in, dammit.

Stroll has had loads of luck, all of it bad, hasn't he? His exit this time was completely Sainz's fault. The team are also responsible for not doing enough to make sure he got out of the way. In such situations, my view is always that the guy on the outside has right of way over the driver coming out of the pits, because of the difference in speed. The guy on the outside is rarely gonna see the pitting guy in time. An angry Sainz is not a nice prospect, and that's all we saw of him this weekend. Still deserved the penalty, though.

It was ridiculous how we lost people every 30 seconds at one point. First Magnussen, then Verstappen, then Stroll and Sainz. Perhaps it was Dark Mini spinning the Wheel O'Maldonado?

Four McGuh's (MGU-H, I call the MGU-K the McGuck) going bang in one weekend? And apparently they took the rest of the engine with them as they decided to eat themselves?

There's no need for any more punchlines, snark or jokes anymore about McLaren Honda. McLaren Honda IS the joke now. This is why I really would have preferred them to stick with Jenson Button for yet another year, and let Stoffel Vandoorne go free. This circus is killing his career stone dead, as I knew it would the first time Ron Dennis tried to boot Jenson out in 2015. Just you wait, he'll score in Monaco while Fernando pootles around in the midfield at the Indianapolis 500. Mark my words.

Awesome job by Wehrlein. Showing why he stayed away in the first place. At completely full fitness, he smashed it, as opposed to poor Giovinazzi actually smashing it. That's unkind, hope he gets another shot, but you know... He wouldn't have done that earlier. "Driving through the pain" is for arrogant testosterone fuelled losers, or Webbers, as I'm now gonna call them. emoticon Gets you nowhere, and would probably have you limping in middle age. Not gonna happen to Pascal, now. *mic drop*

And in amongst everything, always lovely to see the one and only Murray Walker in the latest episode of F1 Meets. This season reminds me neatly of one of his most quoted lines:

"Anything can happen in Formula One, and it usually does!"

Drivers

1. Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari) 68
2. Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) 61
3. Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes) 38
4. Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) 34

Constructors

1. Ferrari 102
2. Mercedes 99
3. Red Bull Racing TAG-Heuer 47
4. Force India Mercedes 17

Manufacturers

1. Mercedes 132
2. Ferrari 110
3. Renault 61

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The Merc team orders seemed reasonable, Bottas not being in optimal speed and Hamilton otherwise just wasting time behind him. But let's consider this: if two drivers are on different tactics and one is based on being faster with better tires and the other is based on having track position, you'll always have the faster car behind the slower. And if they were actually racing, it would all be about whether he can pass.

Now in this case both team orders are logical if we look at them separately, but if there'd been neither, it would've been close race between the Mercs.


Bad weekend for Kimi, have to be happy with 4th.
But have to wonder Ferrari's tactics, for second race in row we have Kimi telling he wants new tires, losing time and team keeping him out. OK they apparently were waiting for Massa and and the other car behind him to pit first so that Kimi didn't have to get stuck behind them for the fast laps with new tires, but still I'm not sure that was right thing to do.

Meanwhile got congratulate Mercedes for putting Hamilton a second set of softs, I believe that was a good move even if didn't change the result.
Shows that you should preferably pick tire strategy that leaves options.


All in all, hasn't quite been the season start Finland was hoping for. Need to win a race now if either driver want to compete for championship.

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Hope for another Twirly Finger this weekend after that pace. Vettel to really turn the screw on Mercedes. That's my pick.

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